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	<title>Comments on: Advertorial Publicity, A Tale of Cowboy Love</title>
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		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably a good time to refer readers to the article specifically about &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/03/the-ins-and-outs-of-advertising-online/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The In&#039;s and Out&#039;s of Advertising Online&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.  Further comments on this discussion would be welcome there :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably a good time to refer readers to the article specifically about &#8220;<a href="http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/03/the-ins-and-outs-of-advertising-online/" rel="nofollow">The In&#8217;s and Out&#8217;s of Advertising Online</a>&#8220;.  Further comments on this discussion would be welcome there <img src='http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Simon McManus</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tessa and Peter for your input, the topic has drifted a little from advertorial but you&#039;ve brought up some great topics to be addressed in future posts. 

Not wanting to stand on the fence here, sadly there is no winning formula to marketing every tourism business. All tourism businesses need to remember that travel is personal and target markets are markedly different in their behaviors. So not everybody uses the internet, not everybody takes a guidebook, not everybody uses a travel agent. 

Don&#039;t be closed minded in your approach just because you have your own preference. Your marketing mix should be organic and rarely rely solely on one form of marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tessa and Peter for your input, the topic has drifted a little from advertorial but you&#8217;ve brought up some great topics to be addressed in future posts. </p>
<p>Not wanting to stand on the fence here, sadly there is no winning formula to marketing every tourism business. All tourism businesses need to remember that travel is personal and target markets are markedly different in their behaviors. So not everybody uses the internet, not everybody takes a guidebook, not everybody uses a travel agent. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be closed minded in your approach just because you have your own preference. Your marketing mix should be organic and rarely rely solely on one form of marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessa Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter to a certain extent I agree with you, however in this day of restricted weights on flights, IPhones with ablity to book instantly and the fact that a lot of us travel on the spur of the moment, the internet is the best way to travel.  I travelled through Europe for the past year and not once did I book through a holiday guide..it was all online.  The only time I used a holiday guide was as a souvenir tool for my travel diary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter to a certain extent I agree with you, however in this day of restricted weights on flights, IPhones with ablity to book instantly and the fact that a lot of us travel on the spur of the moment, the internet is the best way to travel.  I travelled through Europe for the past year and not once did I book through a holiday guide..it was all online.  The only time I used a holiday guide was as a souvenir tool for my travel diary.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Blackwell</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Blackwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just seems the people who have a vested interest in the world of the Internet are so simplistic.  Sure it is measurable, either at a visitor or transactional level but we need to be a little more balanced. It is not the only way people find us.   

Look at the HAPNZ research this week.  56% of domestic visitors plan a holiday with a printed guide and 26% will not use the internet - tough to ignore that audience because it is not measurable.  

It is always about smart marketing and working with businesses that take genuine ownership of putting your message in front of your target audience.   Perhaps too we need to recognise that most of our industry never ask a person on the end of a phone where they found the number. 

AA is the biggest tourism publisher, the biggest provider of GPS mapping and beyond TNZ have the most viewed tourism content online.   It is about having the right media and, as I have to reprint another 500,000 visitor guides this year, I can assure you that consumers find printed product convenient, informative and often easier to use and make a decision than the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems the people who have a vested interest in the world of the Internet are so simplistic.  Sure it is measurable, either at a visitor or transactional level but we need to be a little more balanced. It is not the only way people find us.   </p>
<p>Look at the HAPNZ research this week.  56% of domestic visitors plan a holiday with a printed guide and 26% will not use the internet &#8211; tough to ignore that audience because it is not measurable.  </p>
<p>It is always about smart marketing and working with businesses that take genuine ownership of putting your message in front of your target audience.   Perhaps too we need to recognise that most of our industry never ask a person on the end of a phone where they found the number. </p>
<p>AA is the biggest tourism publisher, the biggest provider of GPS mapping and beyond TNZ have the most viewed tourism content online.   It is about having the right media and, as I have to reprint another 500,000 visitor guides this year, I can assure you that consumers find printed product convenient, informative and often easier to use and make a decision than the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon McManus</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campbell, wouldn&#039;t that just be Utopia? Where everyone comes to you with absolute proven results and offers a free trial, no strings attached!? The overheads for the offline publishers, in their dog eat dog media industry, make that an impossible ask. 

Back in reality it may take time, but it&#039;s up to you folks, (or a consultant) to do the donkey work and decide the best way to spend your marketing dollar. 

By the way, the closest I&#039;ve ever seen to your Utopia was the monopolistic billionaires at Google Adwords, offering a $75 credit to new signups, not bad! But I guess even with their whizz-bang measurement tools, how many &quot;conversions&quot; do you get per dollar spent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campbell, wouldn&#8217;t that just be Utopia? Where everyone comes to you with absolute proven results and offers a free trial, no strings attached!? The overheads for the offline publishers, in their dog eat dog media industry, make that an impossible ask. </p>
<p>Back in reality it may take time, but it&#8217;s up to you folks, (or a consultant) to do the donkey work and decide the best way to spend your marketing dollar. </p>
<p>By the way, the closest I&#8217;ve ever seen to your Utopia was the monopolistic billionaires at Google Adwords, offering a $75 credit to new signups, not bad! But I guess even with their whizz-bang measurement tools, how many &#8220;conversions&#8221; do you get per dollar spent?</p>
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		<title>By: Campbell Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Campbell Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Daniel. The biggest hurdle for any offline magazine (or the general print media) is their ability to provide (independent) statistics or some sort of proof of success.

I get approached daily by these organisations - but what I&#039;m really waiting for is a company to say &quot;I&#039;ll give you half a page this month, if it works for you then I hope we can do business.&quot; 

And I would...if it worked. 

This will only work for the magazines if they do their homework &amp; only approach companies that fit well with their demographic - oh yea, and they have to have a good mag to start with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Daniel. The biggest hurdle for any offline magazine (or the general print media) is their ability to provide (independent) statistics or some sort of proof of success.</p>
<p>I get approached daily by these organisations &#8211; but what I&#8217;m really waiting for is a company to say &#8220;I&#8217;ll give you half a page this month, if it works for you then I hope we can do business.&#8221; </p>
<p>And I would&#8230;if it worked. </p>
<p>This will only work for the magazines if they do their homework &amp; only approach companies that fit well with their demographic &#8211; oh yea, and they have to have a good mag to start with.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon McManus</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to get valuable feedback on my first post. Let me say this while I&#039;m firmly in the PR camp, I&#039;ll stand up and say I never outright reject advertising, print or otherwise, it has it&#039;s place. (Keeping the media afloat for one!) Web has definitely introduced a whole new level of measure ability which is accessible to SMEs, fantastic. 

Ideally you consider a comprehensive approach using all elements of the marketing mix, including the dreaded advertising and advertorial, it will pay off and you can see that in your stats, whether from your website or in feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to get valuable feedback on my first post. Let me say this while I&#8217;m firmly in the PR camp, I&#8217;ll stand up and say I never outright reject advertising, print or otherwise, it has it&#8217;s place. (Keeping the media afloat for one!) Web has definitely introduced a whole new level of measure ability which is accessible to SMEs, fantastic. </p>
<p>Ideally you consider a comprehensive approach using all elements of the marketing mix, including the dreaded advertising and advertorial, it will pay off and you can see that in your stats, whether from your website or in feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bridges</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, print advertising has to chin a very high bar to win the battle for my advertising dollar.  When there are so many 100% traceable online advertising options, it is difficult to justify print by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, print advertising has to chin a very high bar to win the battle for my advertising dollar.  When there are so many 100% traceable online advertising options, it is difficult to justify print by comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn Bolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most consistent comment I have heard from tourism operators over the years is &quot;how do you know which publications to advertise with&quot; and the second most common one is &quot;I have wasted thousands of dollars over the years on advertising&quot;. 

Ive found that the longer an operator is involved in the tourism industry the less likely they are to fall for these approaches - so make sure that the colleague you ask has been in business for a while. Also be sure to ask your RTO they have had plenty of experience at this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most consistent comment I have heard from tourism operators over the years is &#8220;how do you know which publications to advertise with&#8221; and the second most common one is &#8220;I have wasted thousands of dollars over the years on advertising&#8221;. </p>
<p>Ive found that the longer an operator is involved in the tourism industry the less likely they are to fall for these approaches &#8211; so make sure that the colleague you ask has been in business for a while. Also be sure to ask your RTO they have had plenty of experience at this!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hatch</title>
		<link>http://www.tourismindustryblog.co.nz/2010/02/advertorial-publicity-a-tale-of-cowboy-love/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the years since the dawn of time when I started writing professionally, I&#039;ve written a number of filmscripts and two (just that) advertorials.  One was for P&amp;G, the other for a major chemical company.  In both cases, I went out, did the research, talked to people, and produced material which, though oriented towards the goal of the sponsor, did not in any way misrepresent or exaggerate the conclusions in the article.

Here&#039;s my point:  if you&#039;re going to be a whore, be an honest one!  Advertorials that require chicanery or untruths of any sort are not the sort of thing ethical travel (or other) writers will touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the years since the dawn of time when I started writing professionally, I&#8217;ve written a number of filmscripts and two (just that) advertorials.  One was for P&amp;G, the other for a major chemical company.  In both cases, I went out, did the research, talked to people, and produced material which, though oriented towards the goal of the sponsor, did not in any way misrepresent or exaggerate the conclusions in the article.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my point:  if you&#8217;re going to be a whore, be an honest one!  Advertorials that require chicanery or untruths of any sort are not the sort of thing ethical travel (or other) writers will touch.</p>
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